Podcast | Jason Squires

Welcome to

The Table

It is easy for worship leaders to feel alone. There is tremendous pressure on us each week to perform, to lead, and to help direct an amazing experience of worship and connection to God. But, it’s so overwhelming! There’s no place to go to talk through the unique challenges worship leaders face.

Welcome to The Table!

064 COMING SOON

Coming 3.22.2023

063 Christian Nuckels

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Christian Nuckels to talk about making the right decisions to drive the culture at your church. It is hard navigating who has freedom to speak into your life and who its okay to ignore. Join these guys as they talk this at The Table. Christian is the Worship Pastor at Battle Creek Church in Owasso, OK. Battle Creek is a multi-site church around the Tulsa, OK area.

062 Doug Gould

This week we are continuing the discussion on making the right choice for your context. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Doug Gould from WorshipMD. Jason and Doug talk about the questions you should ask when upgrading your sound system. How do you know what is the right system for your context? Do you need the latest thing or is it practical for you?

061 Jason Houtsma

Two Jason’s hanging out at the Table! Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jason Houtsma from Worship Artistry. We are in a new month which means a new topic. This month we are talking about making the right decisions for your context. What is right for you might not be right for someone else. Join these guys as they talk about song choice and band arrangements at church. Check out www.worshipartistry.com to for more information!

060 Mentor Chat

Join Jason Squires, Tim Tibbles, Grant Norsworthy, and Jason Harris in this month’s mentor chat! The mentor team is a group of worship leaders that wrap up each month’s topic. This month we are chatting about spiritual health on your team. In this episode, the team talks about keeping yourself in a place spiritually to be able to lead your team.

059 Tim Tibbles

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Tim Tibbles. Tim is the Creative Arts Minister at First Christian Church of Owasso, OK. In this episode Tim and Jason talk about keeping Jesus in the worship planning process, how to know if you’re in a rut, and an important philosophy regarding tacos!

058 Todd Fields

Join Jason Squires this week as he sits down with Todd Fields. Todd was on staff at North Point Church in Atlanta, GA for over 20 years. Now Todd runs a ministry called Worship Circle mentoring worship leaders all over the globe. Join this conversation as Jason and Todd continue this month’s topic on leading your team spiritually. You can find out more about Worship Circle by visiting www.worshipcircle.com.

057 Jenni McGrew

Welcome to a new month at The Table. This month we are talking about how to give your team spiritual direction. This week join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jenni McGrew. Jenni is the leader of the Worship Leader’s Collective as well as she and her husband Jake lead Hope City Church in Abbotsford, BC.

056 Mentor Chat

Join us for the first mentor chat of Season 2. Sit down with Jason Squires, Joe Horness, Grant Norsworthy, Michael Bahn, and Jason Harris as they talk about worship. This month we are answering the question “What is Worship?”. As always we end our conversations with a food question. What was your first meal of 2023?

055 Jamie Lawerence

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jamie Lawerence from Campbellsville University in Kentucky. Jamie is the Executive Director of Ministry and Outreach. In this podcast Jason and Jamie talk about this month’s topic “What is Worship?” from the perspective of how college students look at it. Jamie has worked with youth, college, and adults so he brings a great perspective to this conversation.

054 Amber Peairs

This month we are chatting about “What is Worship?”. This week we invite you to you join Jason Squires as he sits down with Amber Rhoads Peairs from Gateway Church in Dallas, TX. In this episode Jason and Amber discuss what it means to foster a heart for worship within yourself and your team. You aren’t going to want to miss how Amber answers the question “What is worship?”

053 Grant Norsworthy

Welcome to Season 2! We are launching into a new season with a familiar voice. We wanted to tackle the question “What is worship?” Join Jason Squires and Grant Norsworthy as they talk about what the word worship means. Grant leads an organization called More than Music Mentor. You can find out more about Grant HERE.

Rory Noland 052

There is nobody quite like Rory Noland. Rory started us off this year with our very first episode and he is helping us wrap up the year with the final episode of Season 1. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Rory to talk about some strategies in the week between Christmas and New Years to help end 2022 well as well as launch into 2023. We just finished a crazy season and we want to rest and start the next year well.

Mentor Chat 051

Join Jason Squires, Jason Harris, Grant Norsworthy, and Joe Horness as they wrap up the season 1 mentor chat with some encouraging words. In this final mentor chat of 2022, these guys share about what it means to reset into a new year and think about goals for 2023.

Heather Penny 050

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with his good friend Dr. Heather Penny. Heather was on the podcast earlier this year and we wanted to bring her back to help us close out the year. In this episode Jason and Heather talk about things you should be thinking about as you go through December and look to 2023. We know your time is limited in December so we are intentionally running shorter episodes. May this episode be a source of encouragement for you.

Andy Chrisman 045

It’s December and we all know what that means for people in worship ministry. Extra rehearsals, Christmas parties, and planning meetings. Songs have more chords in them and there are expectations as to what the service looks like. This month we want to be a mid week encouragement to you. We have shortened the episodes and brought back guests from the year to simply share some words of encouragement. This week’s episode join Andy Chrisman and Jason Squires as they talk about something really exciting Andy launched with some friends as well as how to help your voice last through the season.

Brian Taylor 048

As we wrap up our month on team expectations, join Jason Squires and Brian Taylor as they talk about how communicating your expectations lines up with advancing your mission and vision for your ministry. Brian is the VP of Experience Staffing and Coaching for Slingshot Group. You can learn more about Slingshot Group at https://slingshotgroup.org.

Mentor Chat 047

In this month’s Mentor Chat you are joined by Jason Squires, Grant Norsworthy, Michael Bahn, and Joe Horness. These guys continue our month long dialogue on expectations. Join them as they breakdown what the word expectation means as well as how to decipher the difference between common sense and what needs to be communicated.

Chris Clayton 046

Join us at The Table with Jason Squires and Chris Clayton as we continue this month’s topic on team expectations. Chris is the Worship Pastor at Gateway Church in Franklin, TN. In this conversation, Jason and Chris talk about what expectations look like on a church staff. Chris shares about his relationship with his Lead Pastor Charlie Weir and how they have developed a relationship of trust to help navigate the mission of the church.

Alex Enfiedjian 045

This week Jason Squires got to sit down with Alex Enfiedjian from Worship Ministry Training to continue the discussion on setting expectations for your team. It takes work to maintain clarity but as the leader, our job is to make sure the team knows what to expect. Nobody thrives with unspoken expectations. Join Jason and Alex at the table as they have this discussion.

Episode 044

A new month means a new topic! We are talking about setting the expectations for your team. Join Jason Squires and Jason Harris as they start the month off by tackling this topic. Jason Harris is a friend of the podcast. You have heard him on many of the Mentor Chat episodes. He is the Senior Director of Worship and Production at Browncroft Community Church in Rochester, NY. Join these guys as they talk through what it means to clearly communicate what you expect from your team.

Episode 043

As we wrap up the month talking about holidays join Jason Squires, Grant Norsworthy, Michael Bahn, Joe Horness, & Jason Harris as they talk about holiday prep in the church. This can be a hard season for worship leaders. Our goal this month is to help ease that burden and give you some ideas to help make your season amazing! Join these guys at The Table.

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Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Erik Smallwood to chat about holidays in the church. Erik is the Worship Pastor at Cornerstone Family Church in St. Cloud, FL. In this episode Erik and Jason talk about how to create genuine worship experiences in a season that is known for tradition. Writing holiday set lists can be full of expectations. Join these guys as they dialogue about strategies to help make it an authentic process.

Cody Cannon 041

This whole month we are talking about Christmas and how to prepare for the holidays. In this episode Jason Squires sits down with Cody Cannon. Cody is the Lead Pastor of Life Pointe Church in Woodland, CA. Cody launched a program at his church called Giving Christmas Away. In a month where we are often thinking about receiving, these guys encourage giving. You aren’t going to want to miss this episode as Cody and Jason talk about how you can Give Christmas away at your church. You can find more about Life Pointe and follow their journey at www.wearelifepointe.com and on Instagram at @Lifepointe.

Kevin Huntsinger 040

It’s beginning to look a lot like Christmas, everywhere you look! It is a new month which means a new topic. This month we are talking about the holidays and the prep work that is involved. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Kevin Huntsinger from Family Life Christian Church in Kalispell, MT. Jason and Kevin talk about how Family Life keeps the holidays looking like the rest of the year. Often times we make a huge deal about the holidays and it involves a lot of extra time and energy. Check out how Family Life does it. They don’t stress at all.

Mentor Team 039

We love the mentor team! This month we are joined by Jason Squires, Joe Horness, Grant Norsworthy, Crystal Yates, and Jason Harris to talk set lists. Join this conversation as they talk strategies for bringing new songs to the church and how to filter what songs you lead.

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Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Brett Perkins from Journey Worship Co out of Lebanon, TN. Brett is a husband, a dad, and a worship pastor. In this episode Jason and Brett talk about the process of writing a set list. Worship Leaders write set lists every week. Sometimes more than once a week. Join these guys as they talk about intentionality and making each moment count.

Jason Kichline 037

This month we are chatting about creating set lists. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jason Kichline from Onsong and they talk about how the Onsong App can help you streamline things on Sunday mornings. Onsong is a great tool to help you manage your chord charts and have them accessible for viewing on an iPad on Sunday mornings. They also talk about how Onsong can help run tracks, loops, and click as well. Its built in such a way that you can use it all or just a small piece. We highly recommend it! You can check out Onsong at http://onsongapp.com.

Nate Scott 036

It is a new month which means we have a new topic. This month we are talking about creating set lists. This is something every worship leader does on a regular basis. We are going to look at it from many different angles this month. This episode we are looking at the legality of playing music on a Sunday morning. This is not a fun topic as it involves money and licensing but something that is necessary to talk about so we can honor those that spend their lives writing music for the church. We are joined by Nate Scott who is a vice-president with CCLI (Christian Copyright Licensing Incorporated). Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Nate and they talk about how to make sure you are covered with the proper licensing for what you are doing on Sundays.

Mentor Team 035

Last week we had the Mentor Team together for a podcast about team time outside of Sunday morning. This group of leaders has so many great things to share! It was hard to fit it all into one episode. This week we have the bonus track that is a continuation of last weeks podcast. Join the mentors as they talk about how to combine this idea of education and community.

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Every month we get the mentor team together to talk about our monthly topic. This month we are joined by Jason Squires, Michael Bahn, Crystal Yates, and Grant Norsworthy. Come and sit down at The Table with them as they talk through some ideas around team time outside of Sunday Morning.

Jared Anderson 033

As we continue this month’s topic on team time outside of Sunday morning, join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jared Anderson to talk about songwriting together as a team. Jared is a songwriter and worship leader. He has written songs such as “Great I Am” and “Amazed”. Jared is on staff at The Ascent Church in Colorado Springs, CO. Check out www.cowritecommunity.com for more about his writing events.

Manuel Luz 032

This week we continue our conversation on team time outside of Sunday morning. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Manuel Luz. Manuel is the Creative Arts Pastor at Oak Hills Church in Folsom, CA. He is also a lover of creatives and the inventor of the Walkabout Drum. Join the conversation at The Table as they talk about why Creatives need each other to thrive.

Brandon Bee 031

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Brandon Bee. Brandon is a husband, father, worship leader, pastor, producer, and a creative. In this podcast Jason and Brandon talk about why creatives need community. It’s important to get your teams together outside of the rehearsals and Sunday morning to build community.

Mentor Team 030

Join the mentor team as they tackle this month’s topic of doing things properly in order to not have negative effects later on in life. In this podcast Jason Squires, Michael Bahn, Andy Baker, Joe Horness, and Grant Norsworthy talk about things like what they wish they knew when they first started playing music and how to maintain energy for a full Sunday morning of music.

Brandon Yip 029

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Brandon Yip and they talk about how good posture while playing guitar will help you in the long run. Brandon is the Pastor of Worship Ministry Development at Bayside Church in Northern California. He spends his time helping the teams grow and be better at what they do across all of their campuses.

Jeff Sandstrom 028

Join Jason Squires and Jeff Sandstrom as they talk about sound and its effect on people in your church. Jeff is the co-founder of MXU. (www.getmxu.com) Jeff was the FOH sound engineer for Chris Tomlin for 10 years. He was on staff at Northpointe Church in Atlanta, GA and he is currently the sound engineer on tour with Dude Perfect. In this episode, Jeff gives some great tools to help you make the sound experience in your church better for everyone. He also breaks down some strategies for in-ear monitors and gives ways to help protect your hearing for the long haul.

Karinne Patel & Sheri Gould 027

A new month means a new topic! This month on The Table we are talking about the long term effects playing music has on your body if you don’t take care of yourself and do things correctly. This week’s podcast we are focusing on your voice. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with the mother and daughter coaching duo, Sheri Gould and Karinne Patel. In the podcast you will learn about ways to take care of your voice and prepare appropriately for leading worship.

Heather Penny 026

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with his good friend, Dr. Heather Penny. Heather is a leadership coach, trusted advisor, and author. In this podcast they talk about her new book called The Life You’re Made For. Jason and Heather also talk about what 3 C living means and how it will apply to your ministry. This is a podcast you won’t want to miss! What does restorative rest mean? You can get more from Heather as well as purchase a copy of her book at www.heatherpenny.com.

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Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jason Harris, Grant Norsworthy, Michael Bahn, and Crystal Yates. This month we are talking about planning to be gone for a weekend and in this podcast the mentor team talks through more strategies. Join the team as they tackle questions regarding making sure you are prepared to step away when you need too.

Jonas Woods 024

This month we are chatting about how to plan for time off. In this episode of the Table join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jonas Woods. Jonas is a guest worship leader, songwriter, and artist. He travels around leading worship at churches when Worship Pastors need to be gone for a weekend. Jason and Jonas talk about how to find guest leaders, build relationships with them, and know that someone is there when you need to be gone for a weekend.

Matt Skinner 023

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Matt Skinner. Matt is on staff at Solano Valley Church in Fairfield, CA. Matt had an unexpected health issue come into his life in 2020 which left him unable to lead worship for 8 months. In this podcast they talk about how he felt as he handed the reins over for the season and ways to prepare in case you find yourself in that scenario. They also talk about how to prepare to be gone for one Sunday and why rest is so important to maintaining longevity in ministry.

Allen Gallaway & Justin Miller 022

Its a new month which also means a new topic! This month we are talking about planning for time off. Why is it important and what should I be thinking about to make sure I am ready for it?Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Allen Gallaway and Justin Miller. Allen and Justin are on staff at First Christian Church in Napa, CA. Allen is the Lead Pastor and has incorporated a solitude day into the monthly work flow. Building a culture of rest isn’t something that is easy to do. Our hope is that this conversation starts you thinking about it.

Mentor Team 021

Join Jason Squires, Joe Horness, Grant Norsworthy, and Jason Harris as they sit down and talk about developing a vision and purpose for your ministry. In this podcast they talk about developing your purpose, why’s it’s important, and how it pertains to things like song choice and arrangements. These guys are a part of the mentor team for Worship Leader and would love to help you take steps forward and process ministry. Check out www.worshipleader.com for all the information and to find out how to sign up to be mentored.

Chris Sonksen 020

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Chris Sonksen. Chris is the founding Pastor of SouthHills Church in Southern California. He also leads an organization called Church Boom. Church Boom exists to coach pastors and rescue churches. In this podcast, Jason and Chris talk about how the lead pastors relationship with the worship leader is vital and how it’s important in developing the purpose of why the ministry exists.

Joe Horness 019

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Joe Horness to continue this month’s conversation on developing why we do what we do. In this podcast we talk about purpose of the worship ministry. Joe is a veteran worship leader. He has worked at large churches as well as helping churches from Day 1. Now Joe spends his days developing Worship Leaders. He also serves on the mentor team for Worship Leader.

Tommy Walker 018

It is a new month which means a new topic! This month we are exploring vision and purpose behind your ministry. Join Jason Squires as he down with Tommy Walker and chats about finding your vision as you navigate ministry. Tommy has been on staff Christian Assembly in Southern California since 1990. Some of Walker’s most well-known songs are “Only A God Like You,” “No Greater Love,” “Mourning Into Dancing,” “He Knows My Name,” and “That’s Why We Praise Him.”

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Join the mentor team from Worship Leader as they talk about this idea of shepherding your team. Many worship leaders are thrown into the role of leading worship only to quickly realize there are many hats to wear. Musical skill, administration of details, and leading people. Join the team as they chat through some strategies to help as you navigate leading people. If you are interested in one on one coaching from someone on this team, checkout www.worshipleader.com and click on mentorship.

Jenni McGrew 016

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Jenni Mcgrew. Jenni wears a lot of hats. Among those hats, she is the leader of the online community, Worship Leaders Collective. Jenni has a heart for worship leaders and shares that in this podcast. Jason and Jenni continue the month’s conversation about shepherding your team. This weeks they take a step back and talk about making sure your own heart is prepared to lead people.

Michael Bahn 015

In this week’s podcast we are joined by one of the mentors on our team, Michael Bahn. Michael is the Worship Pastor at River Valley Church in Grants Pass, OR. He oversees a network of 5 campuses. This whole month we are talking about shepherding the people on your team. Join Jason Squires and Michael Bahn as they sit down and talk about why leading worship needs to start with the heart.

Daryl Black 014

We are in a new month which means a new topic! This month we are talking about shepherding your team. Join Jason Squires as he sits down and chats with Daryl Black. Daryl is the Worship Pastor at Bear Creek Community Church in Lodi, CA. Jason and Daryl talk about the need for creating a safe community and why that’s an important part in taking care of people.

Kacee Squires 013

Four months a year there is a 5th week. Each of those weeks we will be releasing a bonus podcast. It is outside of our normal topic rhythm. This podcast our host, Jason Squires, is joined by his wife Kacee Squires. In this podcast they talk about how to be married to a creative. Creatives beat to a different drum and see life through different lenses. What are the joys and challenges that can bring to a marriage? Our hope is that this podcast gives you tools to help support that creative spouse or significant other in your life. All the work doesn’t fall on the shoulders of the spouse. Jason gives tips from the creatives perspective as well.

Mentor Team 012

As we wrap up another month, the Mentor Team sits down and dialogues about putting out fires on Sunday morning. How do you handle the problems when they arise?

Darnisha Taylor & David Prince 011

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Darnisha Taylor and David Prince from Bay Life Church in Brandon, FL. Darnisha is on the mentor team for Worship Leader Magazine as well as a Worship Pastor. David is the Tech Director. In this podcast they talk about why it is important to do ministry as a team. When problems arise on a Sunday morning, it is important that more than one person knows how to fix it.

Ryan Dahl 010

Join Jason Squires as he sits down and chats with the Ryan Dahl, the founder of PraiseCharts. Jason and Ryan continue this month’s discussion on putting out fires on Sunday morning. To learn more about Praise Charts, visit www.praisecharts.com.

Aaron Stewart 009

Its a new month which means a new topic! This month we are talking about putting out fires on Sunday morning. We’ve all been there when it feels like everything around us is going wrong and the service is just a few minutes away. Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Aaron Stewart from Planning Center. In this conversation they focus on why communication is so important. Being on the same page with your team can help mitigate potential issues and help diffuse issues that arise on a Sunday morning.

Mentor Team 008

Join Jason Squires, Michael Bahn, Joe Horeness, and Mary Kolsrud as they chat about taking what you have and making it awesome. It is really easy to get caught up with trying to sound like a certain band and when that sound isn’t achieved, it feels like failure. The mentor team talks about finding your sound and making that sound the most important thing.

Peter Neumann 007

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Peter Neumann! Peter has worn many hats over the years from artist to worship leader to professor to pastor and everything in between. He is currently on staff at a church just outside of Sacramento, CA. Peter has a passion for excellence in worship and is gifted to help draw it out of whomever he is working with. Jason and Peter talk about a church that Peter worked at where he helped get the church from church plant to releasing a worship album. Join them as they chat through the strategies to get from point A to point B.

Check out more from Peter at http://PeterNeumannMusic.com

Andy Chrisman 006

Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Andy Chrisman and chats through why it’s important to always be working on and honing your craft. Andy was one of the founding members of 4Him and now is at Church on the Move in Oklahoma.

Matt McCoy 005

Join us today as we welcome Matt McCoy to the podcast. Matt is the founder of Loop Community. Jason Squires sits down with him and chats about taking what you have as a band and making it awesome. You might lead by yourself on guitar, you might only lead vocally and rely on other musicians, or you may have a full team of volunteers. Wherever you are on the spectrum, Matt and Jason talk about making that amazing and not striving for something that you are not.

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Join Jason Squires, Michael Bahn, Tim Feder, Magen Thurman, Joe Horeness, and Darnisha Taylor as they chat about leading a ministry while making sure self care is a priority. In this podcast they talk about not only why its important for yourself but also why you need to make sure your team is as well.

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Join Jason Squires as he sits down with artist, songwriter, and worship leader Mark Harris. Mark was one of the founding members of 4Him and is now on staff at Gateway Church in Texas. The conversation centers around the need for Sabbath and why taking time off is an essential part of maintaining longevity in ministry.

Doug Holck 002

Join us for Episode 002 as Jason Squires sits down with veteran worship leader and pastor, Doug Holck. Doug was on staff for 46 years at People’s Church in Fresno, CA. Jason talks to him about self care and how it applies to longevity in ministry.

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Join Jason Squires as he sits down with Rory Noland for a great discussion on self care in ministry. Rory is the director of Heart of the Artist Ministries, an organization dedicated to serving artists in the church. Rory served as the music director at Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois, for twenty years and as Pastor of Worship for Harvest Bible Chapel in Rolling Meadows, Illinois. For fifteen years, Rory led worship for the Transforming Center, a ministry that cares for the souls of pastors and leaders.